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Why people says that Majin Vegeta is a bit above Kid Gohan and SPC ?
Topic Started: Jun 16 2012, 01:44 PM (2,124 Views)
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I see that many members here said that Majin Vegeta is only a bit stronger than SPC and Kid Gohan SSjin 2 ??
Chapter: 465 (DBZ 271), P2.3-4
Context: as Vegeta fights Boo
Piccolo: “[Vegeta]’s already surpassed Super Saiyan as well…This is tremendous power…Perhaps even greater than Gohan’s when he fought Cell…But then…Even Gohan has been killed by Majin Boo…Why is Majin Boo as [strong?] as this?…”
when Vegeta PreMajin enter the tournament he was confident in taking Goku and Gohan seeing Gohan's SSjin 2 powers and Goku's MSSjin power so : that means MSSjin Goku(Cell games) <<< SSjin 2 Kid Gohan << SSjin 2 Vegeta PreMajin so how much Vegeta is stronger than SSjin 2 Kid Gohan ?? this is what confusing me .

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Majin Vegeta was Goku's SSjin 2 equal so Goku at least during the 7 years surpass his MSSjin (Cell games) in base .
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Goku said that he done " impossibly hard training in the after life " but he was suprised that Vegeta was able to match him .
so saying that Vegeta is only a bit above SSjin 2 Gohan like saying that Goku only got slightly stronger after all THE IMPOSSIBLY HARD TRAINING .
in the end : SSjin 2 Kid Gohan <= SPC << SSjin 2 Vegeta PreMajin <<< SSjin 2 Majin Vegeta = SSjin 2 Goku
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He should only be a bit above Gohan and SPC.

SPC > SSJ2 Gohan, in my eyes.

Vegeta was probably only confident in beating Gohan because he'd gotten weaker, and Vegeta remarked on it when Gohan was at Capsule Corp getting his costume from Bulma.

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GridZero
Jun 16 2012, 01:49 PM
He should only be a bit above Gohan and SPC.

SPC > SSJ2 Gohan, in my eyes.

Vegeta was probably only confident in beating Gohan because he'd gotten weaker, and Vegeta remarked on it when Gohan was at Capsule Corp getting his costume from Bulma.

Goku SSjin 2 = SSjin 2 Majin Vegeta , saying that SPC and Gohan is slightly weaker than Vegeta is like saying that Goku only x1.5 stronger than his Cell games counterpart and he did mentions in the manga that he did IMPOSSIBLY HARD TRAINING .
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Jun 16 2012, 01:55 PM
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Jun 16 2012, 01:49 PM
He should only be a bit above Gohan and SPC.

SPC > SSJ2 Gohan, in my eyes.

Vegeta was probably only confident in beating Gohan because he'd gotten weaker, and Vegeta remarked on it when Gohan was at Capsule Corp getting his costume from Bulma.

Goku SSjin 2 = SSjin 2 Majin Vegeta , saying that SPC and Gohan is slightly weaker than Vegeta is like saying that Goku only x1.5 stronger than his Cell games counterpart and he did mentions in the manga that he did IMPOSSIBLY HARD TRAINING .
Herms Translation, Viz, or that online scanlation?

And impossibly hard training might've been meaning SSJ3, not SSJ2.

SSJ3 is a straight up training transformation, not anger induced like SSJ and SSJ2.
Edited by GridZero, Jun 16 2012, 01:57 PM.
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Vegeta was confident that he can beat Teen Gohan SSJ2, not Kid Gohan SSJ2 ( enraged ).

He even mentioned that Gohan is under him and Goku, unless he falls in frenzy like against Cell which could probably get him to overpowering Vegeta Pre Majin ( not Goku ) because he still had in mind that Him > Goku > Gohan.

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I have a gap of 40% between Majin Vegeta and SSjin 2 Kid Gohan even PreMajin Vegeta was equal or slightly stronger than Gohan .
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Jun 16 2012, 01:56 PM
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Jun 16 2012, 01:55 PM
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Jun 16 2012, 01:49 PM
He should only be a bit above Gohan and SPC.

SPC > SSJ2 Gohan, in my eyes.

Vegeta was probably only confident in beating Gohan because he'd gotten weaker, and Vegeta remarked on it when Gohan was at Capsule Corp getting his costume from Bulma.

Goku SSjin 2 = SSjin 2 Majin Vegeta , saying that SPC and Gohan is slightly weaker than Vegeta is like saying that Goku only x1.5 stronger than his Cell games counterpart and he did mentions in the manga that he did IMPOSSIBLY HARD TRAINING .
Herms Translation, Viz, or that online scanlation?

And impossibly hard training might've been meaning SSJ3, not SSJ2.

SSJ3 is a straight up training transformation, not anger induced like SSJ and SSJ2.
(sorry for double posting)Goku said after all the IMPOSSIBLY HARD TRAINING Vegeta was able to match him surely he doesn't means SSjin 3 here and Vegeta responds that he even trained harder .
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What translation does he say impossibly hard training?
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Jun 16 2012, 02:18 PM
What translation does he say impossibly hard training?
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I can't see the picture, but is it the online scanlation?

You really shouldn't trust that translation.

They have a lot of wrong things, and in some instances, they don't event translate bubbles.
Edited by GridZero, Jun 16 2012, 02:24 PM.
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GridZero
Jun 16 2012, 02:24 PM
I can't see the picture, but is it the online scanlation?

You really shouldn't trust that translation.

They have a lot of wrong things, and in some instances, they don't event translate bubbles.
It's from the manga it can't be wrong .
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Chapter: 458 (DBZ 264), P10.3-4, P11.2-3
Context: after Goku and Vegeta fight for a while
Goku: “Un-unbelievable…I thought I trained considerably in the afterlife…But we’re completely even…You trained more than me…”
Vegeta: “…No, that’s not it…I think I did perform more special training than you, but you’re a greater genius than I am…No matter how much time passed, this gap wouldn’t change…I realized this, when you fought with that monster Babidi sent…It was a shock…That’s why I secretly resolved myself…[ ] At the tournament, the people who knew that pair who Babidi made into his underlings said that they had become far stronger than before…I remembered that, and I thought…That if I were taken over by him too, then the gap between you and me would vanish…And I was right…”
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Yeah, thanks Super Vegetto, I was also trying to find it.
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DeMon PrinCe
Jun 16 2012, 02:25 PM
GridZero
Jun 16 2012, 02:24 PM
I can't see the picture, but is it the online scanlation?

You really shouldn't trust that translation.

They have a lot of wrong things, and in some instances, they don't event translate bubbles.
It's from the manga it can't be wrong .
It's from a fanslation, it can be wrong and it is wrong.
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Jun 16 2012, 02:31 PM
DeMon PrinCe
Jun 16 2012, 02:25 PM
GridZero
Jun 16 2012, 02:24 PM
I can't see the picture, but is it the online scanlation?

You really shouldn't trust that translation.

They have a lot of wrong things, and in some instances, they don't event translate bubbles.
It's from the manga it can't be wrong .
It's from a fanslation, it can be wrong and it is wrong.
Sorry , i just didn't find the line in the Manga :( .
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